Ya know, I own both, but only on the x360/ps3.. I vetoed them over the no clan/public run servers back in their day even though I liked their "current day" as opposed to the black ops's era (although I love the Black Op's story lines/single player/zombies).. Lockdown is in full effect here till some tax money trickles in, when that time comes, I might pick those up, as well as Borderlands 2, which seems real popular as well.. I do own (and LOVE) Fallout: New Vegas, which I'm told is very similar to BorderLands(1/2) cept for one real key difference - Lack of multilayer. Had I known that, I may have gone the other way originally